The person behind The Real IRA bombing turned out to be a woman, and Brid remarks about the number of times women were the instigators of violence. Did it surprise you to learn that women were so prominently involved?
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The person behind The Real IRA bombing turned out to be a woman, and Brid remarks about the number of times women were the instigators of violence. Did it surprise you to learn that women were so prominently involved?
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No, I was not surprised to see a woman at the center of this novel. I too have read Say Nothing as well as TransAtlantic (Collum McCann)and the role women played cannot be overstated. While not front and center women have been involved in the fight for justice through out history and there are countless novels that depict their struggle. Trouble the Living gives insight into the price women pay for such involvement.
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Not at all ... especially the subservient roles they were given. They LET her become part of their group by giving her a menial task; one that if she were stopped with the materials would end up with her going to jail. This left the men free to call the shots and direct the action. Women are usually the strong, silent backbones of most conflicts. I think if women were in the driver's seat in world negotiations, we would have fewer conflicts. Women have had to negotiate in every aspect of their lives to get through .... with employers, parents, husbands and children. As such, most aren't held prisoner by their egos. It seems most wars are caused by men's egos drawing lines and refusing to compromise. Will be interesting to see as more women get in more positions of real influence if it will change the tenor of how conflict is handled.
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Not at all. Women have been involved in war and insurrections for centuries, but in twentieth-century Ireland, they became much more prominent. I think this is something we're going to see more and more. Look how many women are serving in the armed forces in our modern times?
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Not in the least. I have read a lot of Irish literature and many books are brutally honest about the violence created by Northern Ireland's bigotry and violence. I'm thinking of Trespasses by Louise Kennedy, for example. Brid's motivation in Trouble the Living is convincingly laid out.
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No surprise. The Celts, and the Irish in particular, have a long history of a strong, matriarchal cultural tradition in spite of societal, and legal constraints placed upon them. There are many examples of women taking non-traditional roles in Irish history. Consider the following as examples,
Boudica, the Iceni Queen of War, Maeve, ruler and warrior queen of Connaught, Grace O'Malley, the Irish Pirate Queen,
Constance Markievicz, poet and political activist and first-ever female MP elected to the House of Commons in 1918, just two years after she took up arms against the British in the 1916 Rising in Dublin.
Sinead O'Conner, musician and political activist
As of 2023, 33 women have served as Ministers of State in Ireland.
There are, of course, other Irish women who have contributed through literature, poetry, musical and dance arts, education and a myriad of other areas.
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No, it didn’t really surprise me that women were so involved in violence. I think the reason women would be so active in such acts though are not necessarily because they believe so strongly in the cause. Perhaps some get involved in groups like this because of their personal relationships.
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I guess I'm in the minority in that I *was* surprised. I tend to think of war as men's work, even though that's less and less true. And I have to admit Madame Defarge from Tale of Two Cities did cross my mind as I thought about this question, so I guess it really *shouldn't* surprise me.
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I think I equate soliders mostly with men although that is changing. Women are definitely involved and are viewed with less suspicion. Like Kimk, yes, war is often viewed as men's work. In the US, women have never been drafted and had to fight to get combat positions.
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There was so little about the "Troubles" that it could have been any conflict/war. Yes, women were mentioned but not developed in relation to the conflict that Ireland suffered for such an extended time. I, too, just read "Say Nothing" by Patrick Radden which is an awesome book. In Belfast this April my Black Taxi driver, a former IRA member, suggested we read it. It's powerful!
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I didn't know this was the case until reading this book, but it doesn't surprise me. I know lots of women that are very politically charged and I think maybe the women were able to go "under the wire" with some of the covert operations because sometimes men underestimate them.
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